Welcome Guest! Create an Account login email: password: remember me: BASKETBALLFOOTBALLMESSAGE BOARDCHATLINKS site searchwhere to watchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp Message Board BobcatAttack.com Message Board Ohio Football Topic:  OT: The Big Two Topic:  OT: The Big Two Author Message GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,152 Status: Offline     OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 12:48:56 PM  There is no longer a Power Five or a Group of Five. It's the Big Two: The Big Ten and The SEC, and then everyone else. As if we needed any further evidence that this sport is about to become a shell of its former self, look no further than this: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41531125... In summation, the Big Ten and SEC are working on a partnership that would give each conference four automatic bids to the CFP. That leaves 4 total for the rest of the country. They're also attempting to organize a scheduling partnership, which mostly hinges on the SEC's marriage to a 4 game non-conference schedule. They're also exploring eliminating the CFP selection committee or at least limiting its role. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,427 Status: Online     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 1:19:02 PM  GoCats105 wrote: There is no longer a Power Five or a Group of Five. It's the Big Two: The Big Ten and The SEC, and then everyone else. As if we needed any further evidence that this sport is about to become a shell of its former self, look no further than this: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41531125... In summation, the Big Ten and SEC are working on a partnership that would give each conference four automatic bids to the CFP. That leaves 4 total for the rest of the country. They're also attempting to organize a scheduling partnership, which mostly hinges on the SEC's marriage to a 4 game non-conference schedule. They're also exploring eliminating the CFP selection committee or at least limiting its role. Why don’t they just go ahead and join the NFL as 2 new divisions ? Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,090 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 2:12:03 PM  You think Purdue is part of the Big 2? Vanderbilt? Northwestern? Iowa? Mississippi State? Auburn? Lol. Wake up. This is far from over. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,152 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 2:26:52 PM  Bobcat Love wrote: You think Purdue is part of the Big 2? Vanderbilt? Northwestern? Iowa? Mississippi State? Auburn? Lol. Wake up. This is far from over. That's definitely the next step. They're looking for helmet games, and Purdue and Vanderbilt aren't helmet games. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,443 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 2:28:11 PM  We're about 4 months from the SUPERBIGNORTHSOUTH CONFERENCE when these two combine. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,593 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 2:41:17 PM  I said this a while back, and still think that college football will end up looking something like the Premier League in England. There'll be a top tier of the richest schools, unconstrained by geography, with a single TV deal, revenue share model, and that what we're seeing is a gradual culling of the folks that don't contribute financially. To the extent there are conferences, they'll mainly just be about historical rivalries and regular season scheduling. The other folks need to hope there's some sort of relegation and promotional system, and the OU's of the world need to get serious about a business model that isn't so reliant and handouts from the P5. The NCAA's settlement and the fact that 22% of athletic revenue's going to athletes now is about to make the P5 far, far less interested in having a bunch of G5 schools suckling at their teat. Last Edited: 9/30/2024 2:54:43 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame Back to Top JimLurker34 General User Member Since: 12/7/2023 Location: McArthur, OH Post Count: 229 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 5:46:10 PM  GoCats105 wrote: There is no longer a Power Five or a Group of Five. It's the Big Two: The Big Ten and The SEC, and then everyone else. As if we needed any further evidence that this sport is about to become a shell of its former self, look no further than this: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41531125... In summation, the Big Ten and SEC are working on a partnership that would give each conference four automatic bids to the CFP. That leaves 4 total for the rest of the country. They're also attempting to organize a scheduling partnership, which mostly hinges on the SEC's marriage to a 4 game non-conference schedule. They're also exploring eliminating the CFP selection committee or at least limiting its role. If this happens, I think I'll go back to caring more about the TVC than the MAC, or any other college football conference. This reminds me of Hitler who wasn't satisfied with just taking over parts of Germany lost in WWI, but then took over Austria, France and, then, blunder of blunders decided to invade the USSR. Sometimes you can bite off more than you can chew. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,333 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 9/30/2024 6:18:36 PM  Four auto bids looks like something that the Antitrust Division of the DOJ might be interested in. You've got two conferences using their market power to impede competition. It at least sounds like something that would draw Congressional pressure from states that don't have a B10 or SEC team yet, e.g., New York, Massachusetts, West Virginia, Colorado, Arizona, Utah. They're potentially opening a big can of worms here. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,943 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/2/2024 7:34:58 AM  Pataskala wrote: Four auto bids looks like something that the Antitrust Division of the DOJ might be interested in. You've got two conferences using their market power to impede competition. It at least sounds like something that would draw Congressional pressure from states that don't have a B10 or SEC team yet, e.g., New York, Massachusetts, West Virginia, Colorado, Arizona, Utah. They're potentially opening a big can of worms here. They are going to get 4 without having to make them mandatory. Rewind several years ago, when many on this board thought a playoff and then expanded playoff would be good for the Mids by giving us a chance. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,443 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/2/2024 9:55:53 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Pataskala wrote: Four auto bids looks like something that the Antitrust Division of the DOJ might be interested in. You've got two conferences using their market power to impede competition. It at least sounds like something that would draw Congressional pressure from states that don't have a B10 or SEC team yet, e.g., New York, Massachusetts, West Virginia, Colorado, Arizona, Utah. They're potentially opening a big can of worms here. They are going to get 4 without having to make them mandatory. Rewind several years ago, when many on this board thought a playoff and then expanded playoff would be good for the Mids by giving us a chance. If we kept last seasons team intact this season, I think we would have a really good chance at making the playoff. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,308 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/2/2024 3:01:22 PM  They could replace the AFC South which Alabama could win this year. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,943 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/5/2024 7:44:48 PM  greencat wrote: They could replace the AFC South which Alabama could win this year. You must really be a fan of legalization of drugs in Ohio. Either that, or you are a poor comedian. Because Alabama couldn’t beat the worse NFL team. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,316 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/6/2024 10:21:32 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: greencat wrote: They could replace the AFC South which Alabama could win this year. You must really be a fan of legalization of drugs in Ohio. Either that, or you are a poor comedian. Because Alabama couldn’t beat the worse NFL team. Heck, they can’t even beat Vanderbilt. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BSC 91 General User Member Since: 4/22/2022 Post Count: 25 Status: Offline     RE: OT: The Big Two    Posted: 10/9/2024 1:27:53 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I said this a while back, and still think that college football will end up looking something like the Premier League in England. There'll be a top tier of the richest schools, unconstrained by geography, with a single TV deal, revenue share model, and that what we're seeing is a gradual culling of the folks that don't contribute financially. To the extent there are conferences, they'll mainly just be about historical rivalries and regular season scheduling. The other folks need to hope there's some sort of relegation and promotional system, and the OU's of the world need to get serious about a business model that isn't so reliant and handouts from the P5. The NCAA's settlement and the fact that 22% of athletic revenue's going to athletes now is about to make the P5 far, far less interested in having a bunch of G5 schools suckling at their teat. That would be fun, but promotion/relegation would never happen. None of the schools who would start out in this new top tier would ever vote for the possibility that they'd get relegated. Kind of like MLS is now, and that proposed soccer "Super League" that didn't happen. 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