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Topic:  Stop feeding the beast....
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Bobcat Love
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  Message Not Read  Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 9:07:55 AM 
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42767844...

As I've said 1,000 times on this board. THEY DON'T WANT TO PLAY EACH OTHER IN THE NON-CONFERENCE. They need these home, winnable, non-conference games. They need them in the standings, for the playoff, for their communities, and for their fans. Get paid accordingly, stop doing this for pennies on the dollar OR stop playing these games altogether.

If SMU needs a game against a non P4, the price is minimum $5 million. THEY CAN AFFORD IT. The G5 has to stop whoring itself out at some point.

They tell you every day - yet nobody listens. Breach of Fiduciary Responsibility.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:31:27 AM 
It seems like they want to play whoever they make the most money playing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /
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M.D.W.S.T
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:37:16 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It seems like they want to play whoever they make the most money playing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /



You don't think the Ohio Bobcats are in a position to demand $5M from SEC schools?
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:47:57 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It seems like they want to play whoever they make the most money playing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /



You don't think the Ohio Bobcats are in a position to demand $5M from SEC schools?


The first thing they teach you when you're starting a company is that you should set your price in a way that that's completely independent of your own offering, does not consider what your competitors charge, and instead is a sliding scale based on how much money your customer has.

On sales calls, when a customer asks you for a price, you should say "hold on, I'm reading your company 10k and will get back to you."

That's just BUSINESS.

Last Edited: 12/4/2024 10:48:38 AM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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M.D.W.S.T
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:54:58 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It seems like they want to play whoever they make the most money playing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /



You don't think the Ohio Bobcats are in a position to demand $5M from SEC schools?


The first thing they teach you when you're starting a company is that you should set your price in a way that that's completely independent of your own offering, does not consider what your competitors charge, and instead is a sliding scale based on how much money your customer has.

On sales calls, when a customer asks you for a price, you should say "hold on, I'm reading your company 10k and will get back to you."

That's just BUSINESS.


How long ago did your company file for bankruptcy?

Last Edited: 12/4/2024 11:01:29 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 11:05:44 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:


How long ago did your company file for bankruptcy?


My company is doing great, thank you very much. I run a consulting firm that works with the Iowa State athletic department to help them understand how paying 5x for a game the Playoff Selection committee values in no way will help their ranking going forward.



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Bobcat Love
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 11:38:34 AM 
When there is legal collusion - you collude with the 5 other peer conferences and start making impactful change.

Or you sit on your ass waiting for Arkansas to call you about coming back as their AD……

There was supposed to be meetings in Dallas between the G5. Immediately after, the Mountain West tried to raid the other 4 partners. Either the leadership is weak, or, the leadership is weak.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 11:52:12 AM 
Bobcat Love wrote:
When there is legal collusion - you collude with the 5 other peer conferences and start making impactful change.


Explain legal collusion to me as it relates to setting the price of something.
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Bobcat Love
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   Posted: 12/4/2024 12:13:41 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bobcat Love wrote:
When there is legal collusion - you collude with the 5 other peer conferences and start making impactful change.


Explain legal collusion to me as it relates to setting the price of something.


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 12:34:53 PM 
Bobcat Love wrote:


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.


You are currently ranting in three threads, aggressively wrong in all of them, and touting how smart you are while using simple words/concepts incorrectly.

1) Explain what "legal collusion" is
2) Explain how the College Football Playoff revenue share is collusion
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M.D.W.S.T
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 1:05:39 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bobcat Love wrote:


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.


You are currently ranting in three threads, aggressively wrong in all of them, and touting how smart you are while using simple words/concepts incorrectly.




I'm certain we would be great friends outside of here lol
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Bobcat Love
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 1:46:58 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bobcat Love wrote:


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.


You are currently ranting in three threads, aggressively wrong in all of them, and touting how smart you are while using simple words/concepts incorrectly.

1) Explain what "legal collusion" is
2) Explain how the College Football Playoff revenue share is collusion








"With the ACC, Big 12, SEC, and Big 10 presiding over the decision, The College Football Playoff has decided to eliminate the one CFP spot previously given to the highest ranked Group of Five team, and award that spot to the next deserving ACC, Big 12, SEC, or Big 10 team."

BobcatAttack -> "THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER"
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 1:54:16 PM 
Bobcat Love wrote:

"With the ACC, Big 12, SEC, and Big 10 presiding over the decision, The College Football Playoff has decided to eliminate the one CFP spot previously given to the highest ranked Group of Five team, and award that spot to the next deserving ACC, Big 12, SEC, or Big 10 team."

BobcatAttack -> "THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER"


That doesn't answer the question, and that you think it does just makes me more certain you don't know what "collusion" means.

This might help: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/co...

But, I guess your plan involves "legal collusion" so that's different. Excited to hear the details.

Last Edited: 12/4/2024 2:31:29 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 2:08:51 PM 
Bobcat Love wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bobcat Love wrote:
When there is legal collusion - you collude with the 5 other peer conferences and start making impactful change.


Explain legal collusion to me as it relates to setting the price of something.


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.


I believe that participation in the CFP is completely voluntary so if you don’t like it, you can leave-right? And what would make you think that the G-5 even deserves what they get? (27% of basic distributions - before all the participation payouts)
I don’t think the other conferences have much bargaining power -but apparently you do. Let’s see what happens.

Last Edited: 12/4/2024 2:29:19 PM by colobobcat66
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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 2:57:49 PM 
Bobcat Love wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bobcat Love wrote:


Have you looked at the payouts for the College Football Playoff and how the Big 10 and SEC divided the pot?

You are a moron.


You are currently ranting in three threads, aggressively wrong in all of them, and touting how smart you are while using simple words/concepts incorrectly.

1) Explain what "legal collusion" is
2) Explain how the College Football Playoff revenue share is collusion










"With the ACC, Big 12, SEC, and Big 10 presiding over the decision, The College Football Playoff has decided to eliminate the one CFP spot previously given to the highest ranked Group of Five team, and award that spot to the next deserving ACC, Big 12, SEC, or Big 10 team."

BobcatAttack -> "THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER"


Mr. Dunning and Mr. Kruger would be so proud of you, Bobcat Love.

I can't think of a more ironic subject title as, I too, am falling into this trap by responding to this thread.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:15:58 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It seems like they want to play whoever they make the most money playing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/10/14/se... /



Yeah, because it is a business. B-Love is like a Mexican trucker, he’s got a decent message, just good luck trying to organize the other truckers to make a stand.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stop feeding the beast....
   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:18:27 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:


How long ago did your company file for bankruptcy?


My company is doing great, thank you very much. I run a consulting firm that works with the Iowa State athletic department to help them understand how paying 5x for a game the Playoff Selection committee values in no way will help their ranking going forward.





Iowa State has this figured out then. Because the narrative here is price yourself out of any revenue.

Last Edited: 12/4/2024 10:20:25 PM by BillyTheCat
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 12/4/2024 10:22:20 PM 
When some folks wanted the college football playoff, others stated you may not want what you wish for.
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