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Bobcats1212
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Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 12:59:30 AM

Just watched a Hawaii game from 2018 when Brian was the OC and Kurtis in that offense with our receivers would be so much better than the conservative run and chew clock offense we have now.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 10:58:48 AM

Go back to every game thread in 2022, I said I thought it was BRIAN who was calling the plays. Not for a minute did I think Albin or Scott suddenly flipped into an air raid style offense. I thought it was Brian bringing his Hawaii and Washington State playbook with him.

Never heard anyone ever actually address it, so just figured it was a mix of Scott and Brian. Which makes sense given his title as Associate Head Coach and "Passing Game Coordinator".

This season...

It looks like vintage Frank chew the clock ball.

Is that Tim or is it Scott? (I think it's Scott, bc Albin doesn't often have a playsheet with him. And Kurtis heads right to the phone after every drive.)

I'm not sure we'll see any hierarchy changes this season, but I do think Brian needs more of an active role in the offense, so he can become OC when Spense takes over in 2024. :)

Last Edited: 10/19/2023 11:00:10 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 2:14:05 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 3:00:15 PM

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 3:38:00 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

I've heard the opposite.

Bobcats1212
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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 4:33:09 PM

Yes, I have, and he'd be great head coach. His passion and fire are unmatched. Players love him.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 4:34:00 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

Yes, I have, and he'd be great head coach. His passion and fire are unmatched. Players love him.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/19/2023 5:55:40 PM

Two rules on college football fan boards after a loss:

1. Insist that there is something wrong with the play of the QB, which is either his fault or the coach's fault for not utilizing him correctly. If it becomes a multi-game losing streak, insist that the second-string QB is really better than the starter because he either runs better, throws better, makes better decisions, has more moxie, etc., or some combination of the above.

2. Insist that a lot of the problem is with the head coach and that some assistant would really be better because he is more aggressive, better in-game strategist, better recruiter, not as conservative in play calling, not as prone as the current head coach to "holding back" the OC or DC from letting his true brilliance shine through, will bolt to a P5 program if he's not elevated, etc., etc., and/or some combination of the above.

Though we are not yet exhibiting all these symptoms yet, give us another loss or two this season, and the second-guessing will be in full flower. Having said that, I don't expect another loss and think we'll finish the regular season at 10-2! Go OHIO!

Last Edited: 10/19/2023 5:57:04 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 1:02:10 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

And you base that on what?

Bobcats1212
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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 1:21:52 PM

Retweet Brian Smith to OC

Bobcats1212
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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 1:39:06 PM

Bobcats1212 wrote:

Retweet Brian Smith to OC

Hmmm imagine that when we spread it out, use tempo, and pass the ball we move it

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 3:53:17 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

And you base that on what?

PM me

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 6:25:09 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

And you base that on what?

PM me

Why because you don�t know how to PM me???

OhioCatFan
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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/21/2023 6:41:42 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Bobcats1212 wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Where�s Tim going? Also would love Spence to be the HC and Brian OC

Have you ever met Spence ? Does anyone on here know him personally? I�m thinking he would have some trouble being a head coach.

And you base that on what?

PM me

Why because you don�t know how to PM me???

Maybe because you were the one asking the question.

He probably knows something that he thinks would not be in good etiquette to say publicly. And, you know, good etiquette is name of the game here on BA.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/28/2023 7:36:52 PM

I�m honored, but I am not qualified.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/29/2023 11:00:49 AM

I am not calling for anyone to be fired and I certainly don't want anyone to think that I think that I can, in a few hours of playing attention to the team each week, tell more than experts who have spent a good chunk of their lives learning football and are working hard every day of the week for figure out a game plan for this team. But I still want to point something out that I have been watching early in the season and has become glaring to me. I don't think that is just a comment coming from a frustrated fan after a loss. I have said the same thing to friends after wins recently and it isn't about being conservative or using the play clock but that we are really predictable on second down. If we run of first down we almost always pass on second down. If we pass on first down we run on second down. If we throw an incompletion on first down a run is all but guaranteed on second down. This wasn't so true when we were down two scores in the fourth to Miami and NIU or when we were running out the clock against LIU, FAU, BG and Kent. But we were still predictable for good reason in those situation and it is true a great majority of the time.

Again, I am self-aware enough to be aware of my ignorance. I am aware that there is more to play calling that just choosing to run or pass and I know teams do internal scouting of their own tendencies as well as trying to find opponent tendencies but this has just become a glaring obvious tendency to me.

Last Edited: 10/29/2023 1:06:24 PM by Victory

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/29/2023 12:05:24 PM

Victory wrote:

If we throw an incompletion on first down a run is all but guaranteed on second down.

I impressed friends/family sitting next to me during the game yesterday by predicting 2nd-down play calling following incomplete 1st-down passes based on Victory's shared observation.

Bobcats1212
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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/29/2023 10:13:17 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Victory wrote:

If we throw an incompletion on first down a run is all but guaranteed on second down.

I impressed friends/family sitting next to me during the game yesterday by predicting 2nd-down play calling following incomplete 1st-down passes based on Victory's shared observation.

Brian Smith ran the run and shoot at Washington State and Hawaii. I feel like he would be much more aggressive and would also get the offense in a flow because the run and shoot generally uses tempo.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 9:41:37 AM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Victory wrote:

If we throw an incompletion on first down a run is all but guaranteed on second down.

I impressed friends/family sitting next to me during the game yesterday by predicting 2nd-down play calling following incomplete 1st-down passes based on Victory's shared observation.

I'm not doubting your scouting prowess, but how sad it is that we can predict the offense - and damn sure every defensive coordinator can too.

1st down incompletion. Run up the middle. Run up the middle. Punt.
1st down run up the middle. Stuffed. 2nd down try again! 3rd down 4 yard route. Punt.

They run every play clock down to 1-2 seconds. There is absolutely zero tempo. Everyone walks in and out of the huddle. After every play they give the defense time to get set, get players in/out, get a breather, get a snack. The only person we run the clock out on is us.

It's more than just bad play calls at this point. It's bad body language.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 10:00:37 AM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

They run every play clock down to 1-2 seconds. There is absolutely zero tempo.

A topic that's been discussed ad nauseam on BA this fall.

Two aspects of this I don't think have been discussed include: 1) what do recruits think about this offensive philosophy? and 2) how tough is this on OUr O-linemen, who have to sit in a 3-point stance while the play clock is winding down 20-plus seconds per snap? I honestly don't know but can imagine this wears on their knees and/or backs.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 10:28:12 AM

bobcatsquared wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

They run every play clock down to 1-2 seconds. There is absolutely zero tempo.

To me the biggest problem is that the defense knows almost exactly when we are going to snap the ball. If we snapped it after one or two seconds, we'd catch them off guard sometimes. We need to vary when in clock count we snap the ball. Being too predicable isn't good!

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 11:20:17 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

bobcatsquared wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

They run every play clock down to 1-2 seconds. There is absolutely zero tempo.

In addition to giving the defense enough time to run to the locker room to take a piss and call Conner Stallions in between plays, I think it's pretty clear our OL is even more gassed having to hold their stance 20 seconds every single play. In addition to running delayed hand-offs out of shotgun 60% of the time, these dudes are working double time.

We've reached a scary point in the season. Apathy. You can see it on all their faces. Honestly, I feel bad for the players. 6-3 feels like 3-6. We're at a tipping point. Will they finish strong against 3 bad teams? Or will they lose out? Honestly, neither would surprise me. And that alone is fileable.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 1:59:57 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

1 correct post in 13,000+ is a good track record, right? Either way, I agree with this. I saw a bunch of instances where Rourke does the big clap 2-3x, runs the play clock down to 1 or 2, and then snaps the football. No motion. I was thinking the Defense must be salivating to time the snap and just blast through. It's literally every play outside the red zone.

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 2:24:15 PM

Bobcat Love wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

I started laughing when Miami's LB "guessed" the snap counts and was clapping. I was yelling at my friends, you could see him clapping. Getting up on the line and smacking his legs or hands. He finally got flagged for it, but it only took like 3 series and they were pre-snap clapping to throw the line off. (I think that had a lot to do with our plethora of false starts, that and being forced to hold their stance for two hours)

It's just crazy that they didn't even adapt to that. Just wanted the refs to make them stop. They still knew the counts. They knew we weren't snapping until 1-2 seconds.

Last Edited: 10/30/2023 2:25:07 PM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Promote Brian Smith to OC

Posted: 10/30/2023 2:25:20 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

bobcatsquared wrote:

Victory wrote:

If we throw an incompletion on first down a run is all but guaranteed on second down.

I impressed friends/family sitting next to me during the game yesterday by predicting 2nd-down play calling following incomplete 1st-down passes based on Victory's shared observation.

We pass over 50% of the scrimmage plays, and you guys act like we never throw the football.

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