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TexanMark
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   Posted: 6/15/2024 4:42:24 PM 
Cuse fan here. I traveled over to Athens and had a nice tailgate of about 50 on your campus back in '21. I enjoyed the drive down and the gameday atmosphere.


I'd like to welcome you guys to come up to Syracuse. It is about a 5 hours drive from Cleveland. A trip offers a great chance to check out Niagara Falls, Finger Lakes or even Cooperstown. Sportsmen will love world class salmon and Lake Trout fishing just north of Syracuse. We have world class golf at Turning Stone Casino just east of the city.

If you want to discuss the game over the summer you can find a free, independent board at http://www.syracusefan.com


Finally, I'm part of a large tailgate group. We love having opposition fans. Our menu is extensive and beer is plentiful. Reach out to me if you're interested

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Victory
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   Posted: 6/15/2024 9:06:12 PM 
I was at all of those locations but quite a few years ago.

I'm not feeling to comfortable about this one. Most of our starting offense from last year is now in the Big Ten or Big Twelve. I won't say that we have no shot but I think the line will be right about 2 touchdowns. Syracuse could easily have one of its better teams of the last decade.
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   Posted: 6/16/2024 1:03:47 AM 
From 2 weeks ago:

https://www.espnsyracuse.com/2024/05/30/russ-eisenstein-t... /

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Bobcat1996
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   Posted: 6/16/2024 7:31:42 PM 
No doubt the Bobcats will be big underdogs to Syracuse and Kentucky. Ohio should also be a slight underdog to South Alabama. The Jaguars drilled Eastern Michigan in a bowl game and beat a ranked Oklahoma St team by more than three TDs. They will return more starters than Ohio.
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 8:33:13 AM 
Victory wrote:
I was at all of those locations but quite a few years ago.

I'm not feeling to comfortable about this one. Most of our starting offense from last year is now in the Big Ten or Big Twelve. I won't say that we have no shot but I think the line will be right about 2 touchdowns. Syracuse could easily have one of its better teams of the last decade.


Didn't they lose like 10 games and fire their coach? Maybe I'm a year off.
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 10:00:22 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Victory wrote:
I was at all of those locations but quite a few years ago.

I'm not feeling to comfortable about this one. Most of our starting offense from last year is now in the Big Ten or Big Twelve. I won't say that we have no shot but I think the line will be right about 2 touchdowns. Syracuse could easily have one of its better teams of the last decade.


Didn't they lose like 10 games and fire their coach? Maybe I'm a year off.



Syracuse hired Fran Brown this offseason after going 6-7 and getting spanked by South Florida in the Boca Raton Bowl with mostly backups playing.

They've since put together one of their best recruiting classes of the past 25 years and have their fanbase feeling excited about the future.

I'm an Ohio alumnus and former Syracuse season ticket holder so I'm definitely looking forward to this game and will be the dome. I'm hoping Ohio can stay competitive but don't like their chances in this one. I think the Orange might be sneaky decent this year.
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 10:45:42 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Victory wrote:
I was at all of those locations but quite a few years ago.

I'm not feeling to comfortable about this one. Most of our starting offense from last year is now in the Big Ten or Big Twelve. I won't say that we have no shot but I think the line will be right about 2 touchdowns. Syracuse could easily have one of its better teams of the last decade.


Didn't they lose like 10 games and fire their coach? Maybe I'm a year off.


A few years off, actually, on the 10 loss season. They lost 10 in 2020, but that was the Covid year, so there weren't a lot of coaching changes that year. The last few years have been close to .500, and .500 wasn't enough to satisfy Syracuse, so they and Babers parted ways last year.
2020 1-10
2021 5-7
2022 7-6
2023 6-7


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Victory
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 11:17:06 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Victory wrote:
I was at all of those locations but quite a few years ago.

I'm not feeling to comfortable about this one. Most of our starting offense from last year is now in the Big Ten or Big Twelve. I won't say that we have no shot but I think the line will be right about 2 touchdowns. Syracuse could easily have one of its better teams of the last decade.


Didn't they lose like 10 games and fire their coach? Maybe I'm a year off.



No, as FormerMember stated they went 6-7 last year. 1-10 was back in 2020. Their best team of the last decade is undoubtably 2018 when they went 10-3. The next best was probably 2022 when they went 7-6. Other than those three seasons Syracuse's last decade is basically a collection on 4 and 5 win seasons. So saying this could be one of their better teams just means that they look to have a good chance to finish the regular season above .500 which I think has only happened twice in the 10 prior seasons. Their win total is 7.5 and that's agianst a much, much tougher schedule than our 6.5. They would be a pretty big surprise to win the ACC. They are around 40:1. But they are at home and the gap between the ACC and MAC has always been big and has only gotten bigger in the recent NIL years and we are only 9:1 or so for the MAC. We are going to be a pretty big underdog in the game but not such a huge underdog that it would be absolutely shocking. Barring something surprising happening between now and then it should open around 14 or 15 which would probably make us around 7:1 to win outright.

The last time we played in 2021 we were probably looking a little better on paper than this year but with the sudden coaching question and Syracuse clearly worse than how they look right now and we were and home. We went off as a small favorite and got beaten pretty badly. My co-worker was a Virginia Tech grad and was embarrassed about how many upsets the ACC had suffered in September and was asking about if the ACC had pulled of even one upset of their own. I, of course, was embarrassed about how unprepared we looked early in 2021 after the coaching change right before the season and we not only weren't going to come close to expectations but after September looked like we might be the worst team in the FBS. In that context it didn't even occur to me to think of our loss as an upset to consider. I told him that was an interesting question and I'd look it up. I had to come back with a reply in that he could take solace that there was one and only upset the ACC could take pride in pulling off so far. He couldn't help but laugh.

Last Edited: 6/17/2024 11:36:57 AM by Victory
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 11:18:52 AM 
TexanMark wrote:
From 2 weeks ago:

https://www.espnsyracuse.com/2024/05/30/russ-eisenstein-t... /


Thanks, I listened to the whole thing.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 11:37:27 AM 
Who knows what we'll see this year. Might be as big a mystery as going into 2021. But we did find out in hindsight that Ohio 2021 was a terrible team that found their footing a bit later in the year, as I'm sure did the coaching staff. embarrassing offensive performance against cuse, loss to Duquesne (duquesne!!!!) horrible blowout to La.

Then the big jump in 2022. I expect even with all the question marks, we will be much better than the 2021 team, and it won't be even close. How good is Syracuse? Still don't know. but we're their first game with a new coach. I would say -- as I said in 2021, granted -- this upset is ripe for the picking.

to return to the topic at hand, This is definitely a game I'd love to travel to, if it's possible, but with two seniors in HS marching band, Friday travel is not easy in the Fall.

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   Posted: 6/17/2024 12:03:18 PM 
FormerMember wrote:

I'm an Ohio alumnus and former Syracuse season ticket holder so I'm definitely looking forward to this game and will be the dome. I'm hoping Ohio can stay competitive but don't like their chances in this one. I think the Orange might be sneaky decent this year.


I jokingly said OU would lose by 75 (bc we were allegedly ranked 75) - but I hope it stays close enough to be fun. I plan to make the drive so I'd like it to be competitive and I'm not bummed out and fans are leaving by half-time.

We lost more than anyone in the country on offense, a lot on defense - obviously, the DC is a big one.

TexanMark if you want a baseline of what we're workin with this season... our line-up last season...

QB - Indiana
QB2 - CAL
RB - Minnesota
WR - Los Angeles Rams
WR - USF
WR - Indiana
TE - Oklahoma State
TE - Ohio State

Two OL went to Rutgers and Baylor.

Damn Long Snapper went to AZ.

Our Kicker went to Wisconsin the season before.


Not sure we have the firepower to force our way back into games like we have been able to in years passed. It's gonna be a grind it out year for us. A lot of low scores if I had to guess.

Honda McCord is a nice QB, and will be even better in the ACC where he isn't seeing a Top 10 defense every single week. I'm sure they'll be fired up to prove that the Orange is back.

Last Edited: 6/17/2024 12:09:02 PM by M.D.W.S.T
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 12:10:03 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I would say -- as I said in 2021, granted -- this upset is ripe for the picking.


Well, like I said earlier, after the line jumped back and forth as to who the favorite was in 2021 as the game approached we went off at -1 and Syracuse picked US off so I guess Ohio was ripe indeed. Just about everyone gave us a pretty good chance to win but we fell on our face pretty hard. I don't think this is the same at all Syracuse was coming off a 1-11 season and we were at home.

I'm not a betting man but I love to look at the odds because it has to be inline with consensus expert opinion or the book will lose money. I usually look here to see what the books say:

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas /

As you see the only lines that are listed from any major book are in week zero. But now I see from the same site that somebody must have opened on Week 1 because our schedule shows the line at Ohio +15 which is right where I would have guessed.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/teams/ohio /

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   Posted: 6/17/2024 1:01:50 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:


TexanMark if you want a baseline of what we're workin with this season... our line-up last season...

QB - Indiana
QB2 - CAL
RB - Minnesota
WR - Los Angeles Rams
WR - USF
WR - Indiana
TE - Oklahoma State
TE - Ohio State

Two OL went to Rutgers and Baylor.

Damn Long Snapper went to AZ.

Our Kicker went to Wisconsin the season before.


Not sure we have the firepower to force our way back into games like we have been able to in years passed. It's gonna be a grind it out year for us. A lot of low scores if I had to guess.

Honda McCord is a nice QB, and will be even better in the ACC where he isn't seeing a Top 10 defense every single week. I'm sure they'll be fired up to prove that the Orange is back.


Jones went to UCF in the Big 12 and not USF. Our #4 receiver transferred in conference to EMU as well and three other receivers and another TE have also transferred or are in the portal but most of them are transferring down.

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   Posted: 6/17/2024 1:10:04 PM 
Victory wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:


TexanMark if you want a baseline of what we're workin with this season... our line-up last season...

QB - Indiana
QB2 - CAL
RB - Minnesota
WR - Los Angeles Rams
WR - USF
WR - Indiana
TE - Oklahoma State
TE - Ohio State

Two OL went to Rutgers and Baylor.

Damn Long Snapper went to AZ.

Our Kicker went to Wisconsin the season before.


Not sure we have the firepower to force our way back into games like we have been able to in years passed. It's gonna be a grind it out year for us. A lot of low scores if I had to guess.

Honda McCord is a nice QB, and will be even better in the ACC where he isn't seeing a Top 10 defense every single week. I'm sure they'll be fired up to prove that the Orange is back.


Jones went to UCF in the Big 12 and not USF. Our #4 receiver transferred in conference to EMU as well and three other receivers and another TE have also transferred or are in the portal but most of them are transferring down.


Throw in a LB to the ACC, a DB to the Big Ten and a DL to the Big 12. I could be forgetting others who have left.
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 2:38:33 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Victory wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:


TexanMark if you want a baseline of what we're workin with this season... our line-up last season...

QB - Indiana
QB2 - CAL
RB - Minnesota
WR - Los Angeles Rams
WR - USF
WR - Indiana
TE - Oklahoma State
TE - Ohio State

Two OL went to Rutgers and Baylor.

Damn Long Snapper went to AZ.

Our Kicker went to Wisconsin the season before.


Not sure we have the firepower to force our way back into games like we have been able to in years passed. It's gonna be a grind it out year for us. A lot of low scores if I had to guess.

Honda McCord is a nice QB, and will be even better in the ACC where he isn't seeing a Top 10 defense every single week. I'm sure they'll be fired up to prove that the Orange is back.


Jones went to UCF in the Big 12 and not USF. Our #4 receiver transferred in conference to EMU as well and three other receivers and another TE have also transferred or are in the portal but most of them are transferring down.


Throw in a LB to the ACC, a DB to the Big Ten and a DL to the Big 12. I could be forgetting others who have left.


At least we still have Titsworth.
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 5:04:28 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:

At least we still have Titsworth.


69 Dude!
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   Posted: 6/17/2024 6:18:33 PM 
Feel free to post over at www.Syracusefan.com

We'd love to hear more about Ohio in August.

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   Posted: 6/17/2024 11:30:27 PM 
TexanMark wrote:
Feel free to post over at http://www.Syracusefan.com

We'd love to hear more about Ohio in August.


Thanks for the invite to your tailgate, etc.
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   Posted: 7/29/2024 1:45:59 PM 
This game opened at Ohio +14. Now +16 at Caesars. Have seen +16.5 at Hollywood Columbus recently.
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   Posted: 7/30/2024 10:12:09 AM 
I am curious to see how McCord does without all the weapons at his disposal. I saw a comparison of stats for QB A and QB B and it asked who you would rather pick based on stats? QB A was McCord and QB B was Will Howard. Most of the sad Buckeye fans picked QB A!!!! But, McCord had multiple RBs and a guy like Marvin Harrison to throw to, not to mention the best line money can buy. Methinks that with our DB returnees and newbies that we can at least cover his passes. Whether we can get to him (Henderson, Weaver, etc) will be the determining factor.
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   Posted: 8/1/2024 8:26:01 PM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
I am curious to see how McCord does without all the weapons at his disposal. I saw a comparison of stats for QB A and QB B and it asked who you would rather pick based on stats? QB A was McCord and QB B was Will Howard. Most of the sad Buckeye fans picked QB A!!!! But, McCord had multiple RBs and a guy like Marvin Harrison to throw to, not to mention the best line money can buy. Methinks that with our DB returnees and newbies that we can at least cover his passes. Whether we can get to him (Henderson, Weaver, etc) will be the determining factor.


McCord has a pass catching TE who could be an AA (Gadsen) and a few mid level ACC WRs. I saw the spring game on TV and the guy throws frozen ropes. If he has time he'll do just fine.

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   Posted: 8/5/2024 8:48:36 PM 
Just bought my tickets for the Ohio/Syracuse game! Just a 2.5 hour drive for me from Buffalo. Hoping the Bobcats make it a competitive contest. There's a lot of excitement in Central New York for the Orange under Fran Brown.
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   Posted: 8/6/2024 10:39:36 AM 
TexanMark wrote:
Bobcat1998 wrote:
I am curious to see how McCord does without all the weapons at his disposal. I saw a comparison of stats for QB A and QB B and it asked who you would rather pick based on stats? QB A was McCord and QB B was Will Howard. Most of the sad Buckeye fans picked QB A!!!! But, McCord had multiple RBs and a guy like Marvin Harrison to throw to, not to mention the best line money can buy. Methinks that with our DB returnees and newbies that we can at least cover his passes. Whether we can get to him (Henderson, Weaver, etc) will be the determining factor.


McCord has a pass catching TE who could be an AA (Gadsen) and a few mid level ACC WRs. I saw the spring game on TV and the guy throws frozen ropes. If he has time he'll do just fine.


He's a nice QB. Syracuse isn't OSU, but the kid is good. Without all the pressure and the memes I bet he settles in nicely.
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   Posted: 8/8/2024 8:57:35 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
TexanMark wrote:
Bobcat1998 wrote:
I am curious to see how McCord does without all the weapons at his disposal. I saw a comparison of stats for QB A and QB B and it asked who you would rather pick based on stats? QB A was McCord and QB B was Will Howard. Most of the sad Buckeye fans picked QB A!!!! But, McCord had multiple RBs and a guy like Marvin Harrison to throw to, not to mention the best line money can buy. Methinks that with our DB returnees and newbies that we can at least cover his passes. Whether we can get to him (Henderson, Weaver, etc) will be the determining factor.


McCord has a pass catching TE who could be an AA (Gadsen) and a few mid level ACC WRs. I saw the spring game on TV and the guy throws frozen ropes. If he has time he'll do just fine.


He's a nice QB. Syracuse isn't OSU, but the kid is good. Without all the pressure and the memes I bet he settles in nicely.


I really like McCord and feel like he handled himself well in the pressure cooker that is Ohio State and its unrealistic fans. He will do a great job at Syracuse. I just hope that since we get him first game that he comes out with some jitters trying to overcompensate and we take advantage of that before he gets in a rhythm. If he is able to throw the ball around I worry about our season because that means our big guys up front aren't able to get to him.
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