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ExCat21
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Payouts

Posted: 5/18/2025 6:23:56 PM

The AAC payouts:

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/mem... /

Scroll to the middle of the article to see the payouts. Wichita State getting $3+ million with no football team. 😱

Wouldn't be a bad conference to jump ship to.

GoCats105
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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/19/2025 10:37:00 AM

The AAC's mantra from the beginning was mostly to take on city schools (Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, etc.), but with recent realignment it's kind of just a grab bag of random good/decent football pedigrees (ECU, Navy, Army) or schools with potential based on location (UTSA, Charlotte). And then a little geographic rival creation of their own (FAU/USF). This is becoming more random than the former CUSA.

I don't want any part of that nonsense for Ohio unless other MAC schools like Miami and Toledo joined also.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/19/2025 12:47:48 PM

Would have expected Bobcat Love to call here for Julie Cromer's deportation to El Salvador.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/19/2025 10:37:02 PM

SBH wrote:

Would have expected Bobcat Love to call here for Julie Cromer's deportation to El Salvador.

I�ve been waiting on his appearance here as well.and $1.9 is, I believe our highest ever payout.

Last Edited: 5/19/2025 10:37:32 PM by BillyTheCat

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/19/2025 11:10:45 PM

I don't understand this generosity either.

Bobcat1996
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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/21/2025 7:15:17 PM

This absurd football schedule in 2025 is crazy. Sure, the Bobcats bring in $1.9 million from TOSU and slightly over a million from Rutgers. However, they are playing WVU for a total of $1 million for a three year (2-1)series. That deal is a slap in the face when WVU paid Towson $500,000 in 2022 for a home game. Terrible deal! No way should Ohio be facing two Big Ten and a Big 12 teams in consecutive weeks to open up the season. Does this administration ask the mens basketball program to play 75% of non conference games vs power four schools? We all know that doesn't happen. If Texas Tech and Boston College were paying basketball schools $115 K a few years ago, then Ohio can find plenty of schools to fork out that type of cash to help pay the athletic departments bills.

Last Edited: 5/21/2025 7:20:40 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/21/2025 9:06:21 PM

I think this a great schedule coming off a MAC title. We get the national champions and West Virginia in Peden plus Rutgers in week one on thursday nite game.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/21/2025 11:15:37 PM

oubobcatjohn wrote:

I think this a great schedule coming off a MAC title. We get the national champions and West Virginia in Peden plus Rutgers in week one on thursday nite game.

My guess is 2-1 coming out of that stretch oubobcatjohn, what do you think? Roll that BIG MO from the MAC Title and Bowl win as well as 3 straight 10 win seasons! Roll it into a CFP coming off our MAC Title?

Last Edited: 5/21/2025 11:17:37 PM by BillyTheCat

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/22/2025 12:42:21 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

By all means we should complain about hosting a Power 4 team and having thousands of their fans pay season ticket prices for a single game. There's just no upside, which is why Bobcat1996 should stay away from Peden that day.

Last Edited: 5/22/2025 12:44:08 PM by SBH

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/22/2025 1:36:12 PM

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Easy for you to say SBH when you aren�t coaching or playing these games against power four programs for three consecutive weeks. It isn�t your body on the line. Why doesn�t mens basketball play 75% of the non league games vs power four schools? We all know the answer to that question. WVU is paying Ohio a total of one million dollars for a three game series. They paid Towson 500 K for one game a few seasons ago. Not a good business deal for Ohio.

Last Edited: 5/22/2025 1:43:14 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/22/2025 5:01:12 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

SBH wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

The only way to give your body a break is a bye week. Looking at this year's schedule Ohio has 9 days between Rutgers and West Virginia then later in the season 10 days between Eastern Michigan and Miami before the start of Midweek games. Then another 10 days between the last 2 games of the season Buffalo/UMass.

Ohio then enters Rutgers with fresh bodies and then has 9 days to prepare for West Virgina at home. That couldn't be any easier on the body.

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2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl
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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/22/2025 5:05:15 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

So you would prefer the 115k type basketball payment over the 1+ million payments from football? It would take 8 of those 115k payments to equal 1 million dollars.

Last season the AD couldn't even find one P4 willing to play Ohio in basketball.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 2:35:39 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

SBH wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

I don�t know the answer to the question? Why doesn�t MBB play 75% power 4 games? If they could get a school like WVU in Athens, go there twice; and get paid as well they would take that in a second.

What you don�t seem to grasp (among many things) is that Ohio is getting a home game as well as a million dollars. Ohio typically buys an FCS school for 400k. I�d argue WVU is worth more. At minimum this is 1.4 million in value.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 11:14:52 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

SBH wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

E WVU is paying Ohio a total of one million dollars for a three game series. They paid Towson 500 K for one game a few seasons ago. Not a good business deal for Ohio.

no, it's a million for one game, plus a home/home washout.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 1:50:52 PM

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Bobcat1996 wrote:

I will respond to your last statement first. Hogwash! Whoever is in charge of basketball scheduling, didn't try very hard to find power four programs. Kent played Bama and Auburn for starters and Toledo played Houston and Purdue. All those schools are top 20 programs who will pay. There are plenty of power four schools that border the state of Ohio. Like I mentioned before, we all know the reason the mens basketball program isn't playing 75% of their non league games vs power four schools. Why not ask the basketball program to play 75% of non league games vs power four programs to raise money for the athletic department. If Boston College was paying $115 k a few years ago, I'm guessing programs like Kentucky will pay more than that. The WVU game is a bad business deal anyway you slice it. Three games for a total of one million dollars from a power four school who pays FCS programs $500 k or more. Is Ohio an FCS school? Play WVU once for a million dollars in Morgantown. Play them again if you want a few years later in Morgantown for $1.2 or $1.3 million. The home game with WVU is an attractive game for fans, but not a good business deal. Ohio football should not be facing three power four programs with considerably more resources, more tv money, and an extravagant amount of NIL cash in consecutive games. This administration is not asking the basketball program to play this type of schedule.

Last Edited: 5/23/2025 2:04:50 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 2:14:44 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

SBH wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

E WVU is paying Ohio a total of one million dollars for a three game series. They paid Towson 500 K for one game a few seasons ago. Not a good business deal for Ohio.

no, it's a million for one game, plus a home/home washout.

This is a better way to look at it than I previously thought of. An even more reasonable deal. 1 million is a little under market value, but will be cancelled out by short travel, etc.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 2:23:45 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

The coaches do the scheduling for basketball. The administration does it for football. Are you asking your friend Julie to do the scheduling? Feels like you wouldn�t want the administration doing more.

Basketball scheduling is not done years out like football. I agree with you, by the way, that MBB should be playing a tougher schedule, play some buy games, and should clear the likes of Capital and UC-Clermont off. But if you show any ability to win games Power 4s won�t touch you. I know you aren�t stupid. I know you understand this. But you are refusing to even acknowledge the difference to shove a point home.

Once again, it is not �three games for a million dollars.� WVU is not paying to come to Athens, Ohio. It�s a rough schedule and I agree with you it was not the best formulated year. However, these contracts were done years ago and OU simply does not have the resources to buy out of one of them.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/23/2025 4:02:10 PM

BobcatBurner wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

SBH wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

E WVU is paying Ohio a total of one million dollars for a three game series. They paid Towson 500 K for one game a few seasons ago. Not a good business deal for Ohio.

no, it's a million for one game, plus a home/home washout.

This is a better way to look at it than I previously thought of. An even more reasonable deal. 1 million is a little under market value, but will be cancelled out by short travel, etc.

plus consider that Athens and Ohio Athletics are going to make a great deal of money (by our standards) on that day wvu comes in.
Now, hopefully those a-holes don't destroy property or behave like wvu fans in general. but I'm betting on an unpleasant day amongst the dregs of college football fans.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/25/2025 8:41:43 PM

Burner this contract with WVU was announced by the current AD in August of 2021. Not that long ago. The current AD also decided to drop Illinois and play Ohio St . The athletic department will make 1.9 million about 700 more K more than what Illinois was going to pay. Rutgers is also on the schedule and should pay Ohio slightly more than a million. The administration is going to make money for the athletic program but yet doesn�t expect the mens hoop team to go the same. Huge difference in playing Big Ten and Big 12 players compared to group of five players. What I have a problem with is those three power four games in consecutive weeks. Ask any coach who has coached in Athens the last 30 plus seasons and they will tell you that schedule is not ideal. That wasn�t the philosophy of Frank or Albin or Knorr or even Grobe. In todays pay for play NIL it is even more difficult to play that many power four schools. It will be nice for Bobcat fans to get to see a power four school in Athens, but I�m guessing WVU will have one third or more of the fans. The WVU deal of one million dollars for three total games is still ridiculous! Travel to Morgantown and get paid 1.2 million twice, would have been better. Does anyone think Ohio will be favored in any of these non league games? And I didn�t mention the injury factor. Why doesn�t the mens basketball team play 75% of non league games vs power four teams? We all know the answer to that question. We can also thank the administration for that blunder.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/26/2025 7:09:19 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Sigh. Let�s break this down because I have nothing better to do.

The last administration started this conversation with WVU. Michael Stephens, who worked for both Schaus and Cromer, led football scheduling. SBH has said this a dozen times.

I still do t know the answer why the MBB is playing 75 percent power 4 games. Can you fill me in?

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/26/2025 8:44:36 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Knorr played two P5 teams every year, including baback-to-back multiple times. In Solich's first year, we played 3 in a row -- likely a Knorr schedule.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/26/2025 9:35:15 PM

Is there any data out there that says injuries are lopsided when the G5 plays the P4 or when FCS plays G5 or P4? I don't really buy it but have seen that repeatedly referenced as a negative of playing "up".

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/26/2025 11:41:05 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Knorr played two P5 teams every year, including baback-to-back multiple times. In Solich's first year, we played 3 in a row -- likely a Knorr schedule.

Correct. Facts elude Bobcat1996. The first year Solich schedule was probably completed well before 2005. I�m unsure how long out those schedules were completed but they seemingly get done farther and farther out each season.

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/27/2025 9:26:21 AM

OUs LONG Driver wrote:

Chat GPT:

While specific, detailed data on injury rates in college football specifically comparing Power Four (P4) vs. Group of Five (G5) and FCS vs. G5/P4 is limited, here's what can be gathered:

1. General Trends in College Football Injuries:
Concussions: Concussions are a major concern, and their incidence often correlates with the overall injury rate.

2. Limited Evidence on P4 vs. G5/FCS:
Anecdotal Evidence: While there's no definitive data, some anecdotal evidence suggests that FCS teams may experience more injuries and soreness after playing FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision, which includes both G5 and P4) schools. This could be attributed to potential differences in player size, strength, and overall program resources.
No Indication of Higher Catastrophic Injuries: It's important to note that there's no evidence suggesting a higher rate of season-ending, career-ending, or catastrophic injuries in FCS teams playing against FBS opponents.

3. Factors that Could Influence Injury Disparities:
Player Size and Strength: P4 programs generally have access to a higher caliber of recruits and more resources for strength and conditioning, potentially leading to a difference in player size and strength compared to G5 and FCS teams. This could impact the severity of collisions and subsequent injury risk.
Training Regimens: Differences in training facilities, coaching staff, and strength & conditioning programs between P4 and G5/FCS could contribute to variations in injury rates.
Fatigue and Recovery: G5 and FCS teams might face greater challenges in managing player fatigue and ensuring adequate recovery due to factors like travel schedules and limited resources.
Game Schedule and Frequency: P4 teams often have more high-profile, nationally televised games, potentially increasing exposure and overall injury risk, while G5 and FCS schedules may include a higher proportion of "payday games" against P4 opponents, potentially exposing them to more intense competition and increased injury risk.

Conclusion:
While conclusive data specifically comparing injury rates based on conference affiliations (P4, G5, FCS) is limited, existing evidence points to general trends in college football injuries. Differences in resources, player development, and game intensity might contribute to potential disparities in injury rates across these conferences, but more specific research is needed to confirm this.

Last Edited: 5/27/2025 9:28:37 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Payouts

Posted: 5/27/2025 2:32:54 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

OUs LONG Driver wrote:

So...antecdotal evidence being random message board posters claiming this is an issue when no one can prove it.

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