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FlashGary
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  Message Not Read  If we ever....
   Posted: 9/25/2017 7:30:15 PM 
I don't know if the coaching staff still is recruiting Jaxson Hayes. However, IF they are and they somehow convince him that Ohio eventually potentially would have a chance to match up upfront with most teams in the country if they can pair him with Nathan Springs and he decides to commit...Yeah, I know, I know. A real long shot, at best. But it's okay to dream, right? I not even sure we have a scholarship left; I think there's one in coach Phillips' pocket. But I'm extremely confident that if Hayes were to decide he wants to come, we'll find one from somewhere.

Last Edited: 9/25/2017 7:31:33 PM by FlashGary

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   Posted: 9/25/2017 8:37:12 PM 
FlashGary wrote:
I don't know if the coaching staff still is recruiting Jaxson Hayes. However, IF they are and they somehow convince him that Ohio eventually potentially would have a chance to match up upfront with most teams in the country if they can pair him with Nathan Springs and he decides to commit...Yeah, I know, I know. A real long shot, at best. But it's okay to dream, right? I not even sure we have a scholarship left; I think there's one in coach Phillips' pocket. But I'm extremely confident that if Hayes were to decide he wants to come, we'll find one from somewhere.


Yes, we still have one scholarship left. No Hayes is not coming here. He has a scholarship offer from Kentucky. (And Wisconsin, Texas, Xavier, Butler, Georgetown, Purdue, and more...)
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   Posted: 9/25/2017 9:38:44 PM 
I know that, apparently, he's had a great summer, but I find it fascinating that Kentucky offered a kid who averaged two points a game as a junior.
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  Message Not Read  RE: If we ever....
   Posted: 9/25/2017 11:35:22 PM 
shabamon wrote:
I know that, apparently, he's had a great summer, but I find it fascinating that Kentucky offered a kid who averaged two points a game as a junior.


OK - and what about the slew of other P5 offers?


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FlashGary
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   Posted: 9/26/2017 12:58:24 AM 
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
I don't know if the coaching staff still is recruiting Jaxson Hayes. However, IF they are and they somehow convince him that Ohio eventually potentially would have a chance to match up upfront with most teams in the country if they can pair him with Nathan Springs and he decides to commit...Yeah, I know, I know. A real long shot, at best. But it's okay to dream, right? I not even sure we have a scholarship left; I think there's one in coach Phillips' pocket. But I'm extremely confident that if Hayes were to decide he wants to come, we'll find one from somewhere.


Yes, we still have one scholarship left. No Hayes is not coming here. He has a scholarship offer from Kentucky. (And Wisconsin, Texas, Xavier, Butler, Georgetown, Purdue, and more...)



I understand what you're saying. But sometimes a kid decides to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

Last Edited: 9/26/2017 12:59:05 AM by FlashGary

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  Message Not Read  RE: If we ever....
   Posted: 9/26/2017 10:57:07 AM 
FlashGary wrote:
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
I don't know if the coaching staff still is recruiting Jaxson Hayes. However, IF they are and they somehow convince him that Ohio eventually potentially would have a chance to match up upfront with most teams in the country if they can pair him with Nathan Springs and he decides to commit...Yeah, I know, I know. A real long shot, at best. But it's okay to dream, right? I not even sure we have a scholarship left; I think there's one in coach Phillips' pocket. But I'm extremely confident that if Hayes were to decide he wants to come, we'll find one from somewhere.


Yes, we still have one scholarship left. No Hayes is not coming here. He has a scholarship offer from Kentucky. (And Wisconsin, Texas, Xavier, Butler, Georgetown, Purdue, and more...)



I understand what you're saying. But sometimes a kid decides to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.



I'm with the line of thinking that says he ain't comin' to Athens. Xavier maybe, but not Athens. I like the two towers you're thinking of defending the paint though!
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  Message Not Read  RE: If we ever....
   Posted: 9/26/2017 11:01:40 AM 
FlashGary wrote:
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
I don't know if the coaching staff still is recruiting Jaxson Hayes. However, IF they are and they somehow convince him that Ohio eventually potentially would have a chance to match up upfront with most teams in the country if they can pair him with Nathan Springs and he decides to commit...Yeah, I know, I know. A real long shot, at best. But it's okay to dream, right? I not even sure we have a scholarship left; I think there's one in coach Phillips' pocket. But I'm extremely confident that if Hayes were to decide he wants to come, we'll find one from somewhere.


Yes, we still have one scholarship left. No Hayes is not coming here. He has a scholarship offer from Kentucky. (And Wisconsin, Texas, Xavier, Butler, Georgetown, Purdue, and more...)



I understand what you're saying. But sometimes a kid decides to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.



Number of kids doing this has diminished to a tiny trickle. Highly unlikely any more, though not impossible.



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  Message Not Read  RE: If we ever....
   Posted: 9/26/2017 11:22:02 AM 
With today's news about the recruiting scandal, just be glad (and hope) that our coaches are doing things the right way.

But we are an Adidas school now... :(
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   Posted: 9/26/2017 1:04:41 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:

But we are an Adidas school now... :(


I asked that question in your thread just a minute ago. Agreed on the " :( "
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   Posted: 9/26/2017 1:29:45 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
With today's news about the recruiting scandal, just be glad (and hope) that our coaches are doing things the right way.

But we are an Adidas school now... :(


Since we haven't landed any top 100 recruits or one-and-done players, it would appear we are on the up and up. If 3 top 100 recruits suddenly turned up at the convo, well, I'd be concerned. The days of a Walter Luckett coming here are long in the past, and he was damaged goods anyway.

On the other hand, hoops recruiting is akin to NASCAR...if you ain't at least pressin' up against the edges of the envelope, then you ain't tryin'...or something like that LOL...
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   Posted: 9/26/2017 4:40:56 PM 
brucecuth wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
With today's news about the recruiting scandal, just be glad (and hope) that our coaches are doing things the right way.

But we are an Adidas school now... :(


Since we haven't landed any top 100 recruits or one-and-done players, it would appear we are on the up and up. If 3 top 100 recruits suddenly turned up at the convo, well, I'd be concerned. The days of a Walter Luckett coming here are long in the past, and he was damaged goods anyway.

On the other hand, hoops recruiting is akin to NASCAR...if you ain't at least pressin' up against the edges of the envelope, then you ain't tryin'...or something like that LOL...



I agree with you, Brucecuth, the days of the high school all-American coming to Ohio or to the MAC, much less the National High School Player of the Year, pretty much are over. The only way I can envision that happening now is if a one-and-done type kid decides to attend a mid-major believing it presents a more favorable forum to put up huge numbers in one season. I think it's very much up to conjecture whether coach Phillips would even want a baller like that, for the very "it's all about me" reason.

I do want to comment about Walter Luckett coming to Ohio. We've been friends since his sophomore year in Athens. And yes, many of the power schools wanted him to red-shirt and get his surgically-repaired knee stronger. Some of you may not believe this, but Walt really loved Ohio and Athens; he still speaks about it today. I personally think he probably would have chosen North Carolina if his knee hadn't blown up during his high school senior season, but he's never admitted that. And I'm telling you, Ohio still very much would have been in the mix.

One more thing: There was no indication back then and thereafter that Walter was bought by Ohio. No flashy car, no house for his parents, no rise in financial status. The family lived in the same Bridgeport projects apartment throughout his time in Athens. Walt purchased a house for his mother after he became successful in the business world. So for those who wondered if there was a secret stash hidden away somewhere, nope, not to the best of my knowledge.






Last Edited: 9/27/2017 1:28:32 AM by FlashGary

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   Posted: 9/27/2017 1:04:24 AM 
FlashGary, thanks for your insider information on the Walter Luckett recruitment. What you say rings true with what I knew from the sidelines. I did know Coach Snyder to be a man of great integrity. It was said many times back then that Gentleman Jim, as he was often called, was such a good recruiter because he could "sell refrigerators to Eskimos." Perhaps that charm had something to do with Luckett's recruiting. I do know about the prominent Athens family that helped with his recruiting, but everything there was on the up-and-up to the best of my knowledge.


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   Posted: 9/27/2017 1:35:03 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
FlashGary, thanks for your insider information on the Walter Luckett recruitment. What you say rings true with what I knew from the sidelines. I did know Coach Snyder to be a man of great integrity. It was said many times back then that Gentleman Jim, as he was often called, was such a good recruiter because he could "sell refrigerators to Eskimos." Perhaps that charm had something to do with Luckett's recruiting. I do know about the prominent Athens family that helped with his recruiting, but everything there was on the up-and-up to the best of my knowledge.



OhioCatFan, a dentist in Connecticut, whose daughter was a student with us in Athens, made inroads very early, hung in until the very end and Ohio eventually reaped the benefit of his diligence and determination.

Last Edited: 9/27/2017 1:36:08 AM by FlashGary

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   Posted: 9/29/2017 12:27:13 PM 
FlashGary wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
FlashGary, thanks for your insider information on the Walter Luckett recruitment. What you say rings true with what I knew from the sidelines. I did know Coach Snyder to be a man of great integrity. It was said many times back then that Gentleman Jim, as he was often called, was such a good recruiter because he could "sell refrigerators to Eskimos." Perhaps that charm had something to do with Luckett's recruiting. I do know about the prominent Athens family that helped with his recruiting, but everything there was on the up-and-up to the best of my knowledge.



OhioCatFan, a dentist in Connecticut, whose daughter was a student with us in Athens, made inroads very early, hung in until the very end and Ohio eventually reaped the benefit of his diligence and determination.



Yes, now that you mention it, I had heard about this dentist also.


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   Posted: 9/29/2017 12:43:08 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
FlashGary, thanks for your insider information on the Walter Luckett recruitment. What you say rings true with what I knew from the sidelines. I did know Coach Snyder to be a man of great integrity. It was said many times back then that Gentleman Jim, as he was often called, was such a good recruiter because he could "sell refrigerators to Eskimos." Perhaps that charm had something to do with Luckett's recruiting. I do know about the prominent Athens family that helped with his recruiting, but everything there was on the up-and-up to the best of my knowledge.



OhioCatFan, a dentist in Connecticut, whose daughter was a student with us in Athens, made inroads very early, hung in until the very end and Ohio eventually reaped the benefit of his diligence and determination.



Yes, now that you mention it, I had heard about this dentist also.


His daughter, Nancy, was in school with us. Liked her as a person.
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