Welcome Guest! Create an Account login email: password: remember me: BASKETBALLFOOTBALLMESSAGE BOARDCHATLINKS site searchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp Message Board BobcatAttack.com Message Board Ohio Baseball Topic:  Baseball expectations Topic:  Baseball expectations Author Message bobcatbetty General User Member Since: 8/6/2025 Post Count: 1 Status: Offline     Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/6/2025 6:15:05 PM  What are the expectations for the baseball team this year? Curious to see what Coach See can do with the program and would love to hear what everyone thinks! Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,258 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/11/2025 12:34:02 PM  LOW! In today's era of player movement, in a lot of ways each year feels like a toss up. But they were bad last year, and lost essentially everyone with any level of success and experience, and have a brand new staff. I have not seen many great resumes for the incoming guys. My goals for on field success would be flirt with a .500 record in the MAC. But more importantly, I hope we just lay the groundwork for a fresh new look in the program and see some encouraging development in the new guys, particularly on the mound. Bay steps back to relevance. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 1,158 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/13/2025 3:06:57 PM  Agree with Ruck, this year is a program development year. All you can hope for is improvement from fall camp through the end of the year. Gotta start somewhere. I was recruited by and played for See for 2 seasons before a new staff came in. See was definitely a bright spot on that staff and many thought he would step in once Carbone retired. I think we are getting a much better version of See at this point in his career. The NIL/transfer portal has flipped the game upside down so who really knows. A new AD is also a major factor in play now, hopefully whoever fills that spot understands the importance of this program to the university and allocates resources as such. Back to Top Stand Up & Cheer General User Member Since: 8/18/2025 Post Count: 2 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/18/2025 11:35:27 AM  The 2026 season seems to be the start to a major rebuilding. The prior coaches really ran the program into the ground on every facet from results, training, leadership, etc. Big job for new coach but also the benefit of lots of upside. Also nearly starting from scratch on the player side. Seems like OU needs to find its identity and rebrand the baseball program and live those new values to be competitive in the MAC. I am excited about Coach See. I think more than ever it is important for coaches to communicate their philosophy and brand and then execute. Will be interesting to see the approach Coach See takes here, but hope it is to focus on recruitment of young players and really focus on development. If he does a good job at that he will lose lots of guys a year to the portal, and should celebrate player success. This will also allows you to attract missed guys at the power schools to come to OU to develop and shine. This will also provide p more opportunities for upcoming/developing underclassman. With the lower roster numbers there will be a lot of player options and in addition to straight up development really identifying the right guys for the program for both fit and development will be key. The reality of college sports is that every year is a free agent year for the players whether anyone likes it or not it seems a winning strategy is to accept and build your approach and brand in a way to maximize what OU and Coach See has to offer. Look forward to hearing more about the plan and approach and see a sustainable and competitive baseball program at OU. Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 1,158 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/25/2025 1:22:03 PM  Stand Up & Cheer wrote: The 2026 season seems to be the start to a major rebuilding. The prior coaches really ran the program into the ground on every facet from results, training, leadership, etc. Big job for new coach but also the benefit of lots of upside. Also nearly starting from scratch on the player side. Seems like OU needs to find its identity and rebrand the baseball program and live those new values to be competitive in the MAC. I am excited about Coach See. I think more than ever it is important for coaches to communicate their philosophy and brand and then execute. Will be interesting to see the approach Coach See takes here, but hope it is to focus on recruitment of young players and really focus on development. If he does a good job at that he will lose lots of guys a year to the portal, and should celebrate player success. This will also allows you to attract missed guys at the power schools to come to OU to develop and shine. This will also provide p more opportunities for upcoming/developing underclassman. With the lower roster numbers there will be a lot of player options and in addition to straight up development really identifying the right guys for the program for both fit and development will be key. The reality of college sports is that every year is a free agent year for the players whether anyone likes it or not it seems a winning strategy is to accept and build your approach and brand in a way to maximize what OU and Coach See has to offer. Look forward to hearing more about the plan and approach and see a sustainable and competitive baseball program at OU. No offense but that was a lot of words that mean little to nothing other than taking a jab at the previous staff. To claim (from a new account) the old staff ran the program into the ground on every facet screams "disgruntled parent." Care to share any specific examples? You called out the results, training (laughable), and leadership (how would you know?) so just curious to hear what went wrong in these areas. Back to Top Stand Up & Cheer General User Member Since: 8/18/2025 Post Count: 2 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/25/2025 5:15:52 PM  I have been following the thread for some time and thought as an alum it was time to join the conversation. I did not realize that my comments were controversial but take your point. Anyway, I tend to focus on conference records and stats for a more apples-to-apples comparison. Moore took over in January 2021 & later brought in Brown in January 2022. The progression of MAC standings was as follows for 2021-2025: 6th, 4th, 5th, 8th, 11th The team ERA rankings for those years was 6th, 7th, 6th, 10th & 11th. Batting Avg: 7th, 3rd, 3rd, 8th, 4th, Fielding: 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 11th. To be fair the hitting was pretty good over the period but the pitching was atrocious. The fielding also fell off pretty substantially. I get that the above stats are not perfect for fully evaluating a team but do give some direction and the overall significant declining results seem to have a high correlation to the pitching and defense performance. The trend after the 1st two years (Less Smith guys/approach/development & more Moore guys/approach/development) was noticeable and consistently down culminating in the 2025 season trifecta of last place in the MAC for overall standings (quite a feat considering the 4th place ranking in batting), last place for pitching and last place in fielding. I think this is by definition: running a program into the ground. I did have some insight into the training/development/leadership. The coaching was an old school approach from 30 years ago. It was based on lots of running/cardio and every player doing the same weight-lifting program which was not baseball focused and more like for a football player. There were a lot of injuries including a single year where 3 guys had TJ in addition to various other injuries. I get guys get hurt, but the training did not seem to help. The team practices and drills never changed, everything exactly the same. They had some of the typical technology (trackman & rapsodo) but it was largely not utilized or used incorrectly. From a leadership perspective Moore had the old school be tough and have zero relationship with any of the players style, encouraged a negative environment that one could see when watching a game including visibly when a pitcher coming out of games after poor performance, teammates would not come out to encourage them from the dugout. Fundraising consistently went down and can be seen in the decline in the annual crowd fundraising amounts. Also, outside of some banners there was no noticeable improvements to facilities putting OU behind in the MAC. The prior coaching staff did a very poor job recruiting, development/training, coaching/leadership and the results speak for themselves. There were definitely a few bright spots/players but despite that the outcome of the last coaching staff was disastrous with consecutive years of decline and ending with a 9-21 MAC record & 14-37 overall record before they all got fired. Looking forward to the future. Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 1,158 Status: Offline     RE: Baseball expectations    Posted: 8/28/2025 10:02:44 AM  Stand Up & Cheer wrote: I have been following the thread for some time and thought as an alum it was time to join the conversation. I did not realize that my comments were controversial but take your point. Anyway, I tend to focus on conference records and stats for a more apples-to-apples comparison. Moore took over in January 2021 & later brought in Brown in January 2022. The progression of MAC standings was as follows for 2021-2025: 6th, 4th, 5th, 8th, 11th The team ERA rankings for those years was 6th, 7th, 6th, 10th & 11th. Batting Avg: 7th, 3rd, 3rd, 8th, 4th, Fielding: 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 11th. To be fair the hitting was pretty good over the period but the pitching was atrocious. The fielding also fell off pretty substantially. I get that the above stats are not perfect for fully evaluating a team but do give some direction and the overall significant declining results seem to have a high correlation to the pitching and defense performance. The trend after the 1st two years (Less Smith guys/approach/development & more Moore guys/approach/development) was noticeable and consistently down culminating in the 2025 season trifecta of last place in the MAC for overall standings (quite a feat considering the 4th place ranking in batting), last place for pitching and last place in fielding. I think this is by definition: running a program into the ground. I did have some insight into the training/development/leadership. The coaching was an old school approach from 30 years ago. It was based on lots of running/cardio and every player doing the same weight-lifting program which was not baseball focused and more like for a football player. There were a lot of injuries including a single year where 3 guys had TJ in addition to various other injuries. I get guys get hurt, but the training did not seem to help. The team practices and drills never changed, everything exactly the same. They had some of the typical technology (trackman & rapsodo) but it was largely not utilized or used incorrectly. From a leadership perspective Moore had the old school be tough and have zero relationship with any of the players style, encouraged a negative environment that one could see when watching a game including visibly when a pitcher coming out of games after poor performance, teammates would not come out to encourage them from the dugout. Fundraising consistently went down and can be seen in the decline in the annual crowd fundraising amounts. Also, outside of some banners there was no noticeable improvements to facilities putting OU behind in the MAC. The prior coaching staff did a very poor job recruiting, development/training, coaching/leadership and the results speak for themselves. There were definitely a few bright spots/players but despite that the outcome of the last coaching staff was disastrous with consecutive years of decline and ending with a 9-21 MAC record & 14-37 overall record before they all got fired. Looking forward to the future. I don't think your previous post was really controversial as its obvious the program is not in a good spot. I just think it was baseless and assumptive on what was really going on internally. I played for Smith and I can tell you our training was very similar to what you are describing. The S&C department is separate from baseball activities. While there is some collaboration, the baseball coaches are pretty hands off and let the strength coaches do what they do best and what they are qualified to do. This is not uncommon. Ohio S&C is a well oiled machine and prepares OUr athletes just as well as anywhere else in the country. Its very much football/track type of programs, designed to get bigger, faster, and more explosive. I can somewhat agree with you on the recruiting. It would appear, based on the outgoing transfers, that recruiting hitters was a strength while it would seem we lacked top arms. That is one area I think See can vastly elevate the program in. I'm guessing fundraising will improve as See is an alum and comes from the Carbone coaching tree. Carbone has a lot of loyal alumni in his corner that wanted See to get the job following his retirement. I'm going to guess a lot of those guys will come back in their support. The real question is going to be if they can sustain and grow over time. My opinion on the baseball facilities is well documented. Not sure how much can be blamed on the coaching staff but I don't pretend to know what goes on inside the convo offices in that regard. I hope the athletic department allocates more resources but I won't hold my breath. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 7  of 7 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Baseball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 268 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 267 Guests 1 Registered User:   cbarber357 There are no other users looking at this page.

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