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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 8:59:17 AM 
https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202306010081/3

Interesting take from Maureen Dowd. One university is ending english and humanities departments.
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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 11:05:12 AM 
giacomo wrote:
https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202306010081/3

Interesting take from Maureen Dowd. One university is ending english and humanities departments.


It will depend on the university. Th top 100 private universities and liberal arts colleges along with maybe the top 25 or 30 publics will be fine. Arts & Sciences will still be the largest enrollment division. And their graduates will still have good job and grad school opportunities. Beyond that, all bets are off. Would you feel comfortable with a kid majoring in History at Bowling Green?
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 11:32:10 AM 
Excluding the humanity majors that marticulate into professional programs, don't you think many of them will use that degree to participate in the creative class? That history major at Bowling Green could graduate work in retail for a few years with the goal of owning their own antique store.


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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 11:45:48 AM 
Is a degree simply job training or an experience that prepares you for life?
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 8:40:52 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Is a degree simply job training or an experience that prepares you for life?


Or simply the ticket to get you into the game?

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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/1/2023 11:34:23 PM 
That’s likely true, based on all the kids and parents, some desperately trying to get into “elite” schools. Any kid that has a degree from any school can likely do any occupation with some training. Obviously, interest and aptitude for some professions. Someone well read with a degree in English or History likely has a better experience for the long haul than some narrow minded major. But what do I know? I never met former president Richard Milhous Nixon.
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/2/2023 7:37:35 AM 
giacomo wrote:
That’s likely true, based on all the kids and parents, some desperately trying to get into “elite” schools. Any kid that has a degree from any school can likely do any occupation with some training. Obviously, interest and aptitude for some professions. Someone well read with a degree in English or History likely has a better experience for the long haul than some narrow minded major. But what do I know? I never met former president Richard Milhous Nixon.


I agree and disagree.

In engineering, except for schools like MIT, the undergrad curriculums are pretty much the same.

One difference is the "elite" engineering schools "gear" their programs more
for Engineering Licensure.

There is, however a BIG difference when it comes to "the real world".

If you get a Business or similar degree from Princeton, you're pretty
much set.
The Alumni make sure of that.

Same thing, its a lot easier to get into a top law or medical school
from an Ivy.




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SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/2/2023 9:26:28 AM 
More evidence that we live in a post-truth era. History will be whatever an AI algorithm (or an orange-faced idiot) tells us it is and/or what we want to believe it is. Truly frightening.




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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/2/2023 11:00:27 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
That’s likely true, based on all the kids and parents, some desperately trying to get into “elite” schools. Any kid that has a degree from any school can likely do any occupation with some training. Obviously, interest and aptitude for some professions. Someone well read with a degree in English or History likely has a better experience for the long haul than some narrow minded major. But what do I know? I never met former president Richard Milhous Nixon.


I agree and disagree.

In engineering, except for schools like MIT, the undergrad curriculums are pretty much the same.

One difference is the "elite" engineering schools "gear" their programs more
for Engineering Licensure.

There is, however a BIG difference when it comes to "the real world".

If you get a Business or similar degree from Princeton, you're pretty
much set.
The Alumni make sure of that.

Same thing, its a lot easier to get into a top law or medical school
from an Ivy.



Princeton doesn't even have a business school. Even the elite business schools are almost always just MBA/Ph.D, with a couple of publics (Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA being the exceptions. Chicago, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth etc have no such thing as an undergraduate business major.

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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: The end of humanities
   Posted: 6/3/2023 11:49:39 AM 
OUPride wrote:


Princeton doesn't even have a business school. Even the elite business schools are almost always just MBA/Ph.D, with a couple of publics (Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA being the exceptions. Chicago, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth etc have no such thing as an undergraduate business major.



I apologize.

My friends whose kids go there say they are studying "business".

Maybe they think "Econometrics and Quantitative Economics " sounded
to "uppity".

Their parents also said a lot of their friends are taking "Public Policy".
Seems to be a great springboard for a career.

As far as elite undergrad business schools,what about Wharton ?
Their website says they offer a BS in Economics
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