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Alan Swank
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The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 11:33:42 AM

Article in Forbes today from Richard Vedder. The title of this thread taken from the article made me chuckle.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2020/07/20/the...

Last Edited: 7/20/2020 11:34:38 AM by Alan Swank

rpbobcat
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 12:11:25 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

Article in Forbes today from Richard Vedder. The title of this thread taken from the article made me chuckle.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2020/07/20/the...

I thought the article was very well written.

I also chuckled at the "Last Resort Bowl".

I like that the article mentioned lowering admission standards to maximize enrollment as a negative.

I was a bit surprised that he also took a less then positive view of O.U.'s
emphasizing political correctness,"regarding things like sustainability and diversity".

He also didn't pull any punches when it came to O.U.'s budget cuts.

This is one time I can't say I disagree with what he had to say.

Alan Swank
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 12:37:48 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

Article in Forbes today from Richard Vedder. The title of this thread taken from the article made me chuckle.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2020/07/20/the...

I was a bit surprised that he also took a less then positive view of O.U.'s
emphasizing political correctness,"regarding things like sustainability and diversity".

I think what he is getting at here as much as anything are the countless programs that have been added that did not exist when he was in the classroom that in his opinion have nothing to do with the core mission of the institution.

rpbobcat
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 1:19:11 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

I was a bit surprised that he also took a less then positive view of O.U.'s
emphasizing political correctness,"regarding things like sustainability and diversity".

I think what he is getting at here as much as anything are the countless programs that have been added that did not exist when he was in the classroom that in his opinion have nothing to do with the core mission of the institution.

That may very well be.

I also feel that, if what you said about his intent is accurate,he feels O.U should get away from placing so much importance on P/C things like sustainability and diversity and get back to their core mission.

Jeff McKinney
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 3:50:47 PM

Hard to think that Sustainability would be considered "p/c". I don't view it that way at all.

Alan Swank
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 7:27:47 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Hard to think that Sustainability would be considered "p/c". I don't view it that way at all.

How many people were in that department when you were a student here Jeff?

The Optimist
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/20/2020 7:41:33 PM

Having taken one of Vedder�s classes, I am not surprised at all he bashed �pc� culture. I greatly enjoyed his lectures, partly because he has no regard for sugar-coating things with �pc-talk�

I've seen crazier things happen.

Deciduous Forest Cat
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/21/2020 10:05:59 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Hard to think that Sustainability would be considered "p/c". I don't view it that way at all.

Exactly. People who view sustainability as p/c or political in any way have pretty much outlived their usefulness as human beings and can **** right the hell off and eat a bag of d**** in hell.

rpbobcat
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RE: The Last Resort Bowl

Posted: 7/21/2020 11:33:21 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Hard to think that Sustainability would be considered "p/c". I don't view it that way at all.

Exactly. People who view sustainability as p/c or political in any way have pretty much outlived their usefulness as human beings and can **** right the hell off and eat a bag of d**** in hell.

Conceptually,sustainability,for things like renewable energy, is admirable.

Thing is,O.U.is facing significant budget issues,which included a number of layoffs.

So the question is,in this environment,can O.U. afford the luxury of its current sustainability staff ?

Looking at the Administrative Staff listing,its hard to tell exactly what some of these people do.

Maybe they could explain,in plain English,exactly what their job is and why the position is cost effective.

Cost effectiveness seemed to be how O.U. determined certain staff reductions.

I'd also like to know if they've ever implemented anything that resulted in
cost savings because of sustainability.

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