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Topic:  What students are charged annually for athletics.
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Bobcat1996
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  Message Not Read  What students are charged annually for athletics.
   Posted: 5/26/2020 10:18:06 AM 
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/26/2020 4:31:35 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.

Last Edited: 5/26/2020 4:33:09 PM by BillyTheCat
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 5/26/2020 5:04:04 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/26/2020 5:15:51 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.



that just means the university will cut that much more from somewhere else. Admittance is not even set for fall as acceptance has been extended. Football has already spent its money through booking flights, busses, etc. only ones who would suffer would be winter and spring non revenue sports.

Fall sports always make out in mid year budget cuts, because they have a
Ready spent their money, many times before the season already starts.

Last Edited: 5/26/2020 5:18:56 PM by BillyTheCat
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: What students are charged annually for athletics.
   Posted: 5/26/2020 8:38:14 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.



that just means the university will cut that much more from somewhere else. Admittance is not even set for fall as acceptance has been extended. Football has already spent its money through booking flights, busses, etc. only ones who would suffer would be winter and spring non revenue sports.

Fall sports always make out in mid year budget cuts, because they have a
Ready spent their money, many times before the season already starts.


So are you saying they paid for this coming falls expenses with FY 2020, which ends June 30th, money?
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/27/2020 7:12:08 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.



that just means the university will cut that much more from somewhere else. Admittance is not even set for fall as acceptance has been extended. Football has already spent its money through booking flights, busses, etc. only ones who would suffer would be winter and spring non revenue sports.

Fall sports always make out in mid year budget cuts, because they have a
Ready spent their money, many times before the season already starts.


So are you saying they paid for this coming falls expenses with FY 2020, which ends June 30th, money?



That money is already appropriated,from the FY 2021 budget, the budget is set before they even know what actual enrollment numbers will be this year. And yes, fall sports spend their money (technically) before the new fiscal year takes effect. You’ve booked flights And charter busses, banquet facilities and catering. You’ve, ordered all the equipment, cloth, shoes and coaches clothes, all well before July. those goods start arriving the first day of July. You’ve basically spent the budget for fall sports before the fiscal year even begins. That’s why fall sports are most always Insulated from mid year budget cuts.

Last Edited: 5/27/2020 8:00:53 AM by BillyTheCat
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: What students are charged annually for athletics.
   Posted: 5/27/2020 8:58:40 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.



that just means the university will cut that much more from somewhere else. Admittance is not even set for fall as acceptance has been extended. Football has already spent its money through booking flights, busses, etc. only ones who would suffer would be winter and spring non revenue sports.

Fall sports always make out in mid year budget cuts, because they have a
Ready spent their money, many times before the season already starts.


So are you saying they paid for this coming falls expenses with FY 2020, which ends June 30th, money?



That money is already appropriated,from the FY 2021 budget, the budget is set before they even know what actual enrollment numbers will be this year. And yes, fall sports spend their money (technically) before the new fiscal year takes effect. You’ve booked flights And charter busses, banquet facilities and catering. You’ve, ordered all the equipment, cloth, shoes and coaches clothes, all well before July. those goods start arriving the first day of July. You’ve basically spent the budget for fall sports before the fiscal year even begins. That’s why fall sports are most always Insulated from mid year budget cuts.


Hopefully those contracts were written with force majeure clauses especially if games are cancelled or not played.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: What students are charged annually for athletics.
   Posted: 5/27/2020 4:08:58 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
The title above was on a chart. Cost per student on campus. Not certain what year this info is from, but it was in Cleveland.com, Rich Exner was the author. The Bobcats spend the least of the following Ohio schools. Not sure of the formula he used. I found this interesting, especially when some faculty members complain about what is spent on athletics. See below.

Ohio $736, Kent $741, Wright St. $791, CSU $808, UC $936, BG $978, YSU $1079, Toledo $1197, Miami $1410, Akron $1528.



Will only grow with decreasing enrollment, as the number of athletes stay the same.


So every 1359 student drop in enrollment will result in a million dollar reduction in the subsidy. Considering tuition and fees are already in place for 2020-21, there will need to be some belt tightening.



that just means the university will cut that much more from somewhere else. Admittance is not even set for fall as acceptance has been extended. Football has already spent its money through booking flights, busses, etc. only ones who would suffer would be winter and spring non revenue sports.

Fall sports always make out in mid year budget cuts, because they have a
Ready spent their money, many times before the season already starts.


So are you saying they paid for this coming falls expenses with FY 2020, which ends June 30th, money?



That money is already appropriated,from the FY 2021 budget, the budget is set before they even know what actual enrollment numbers will be this year. And yes, fall sports spend their money (technically) before the new fiscal year takes effect. You’ve booked flights And charter busses, banquet facilities and catering. You’ve, ordered all the equipment, cloth, shoes and coaches clothes, all well before July. those goods start arriving the first day of July. You’ve basically spent the budget for fall sports before the fiscal year even begins. That’s why fall sports are most always Insulated from mid year budget cuts.


Hopefully those contracts were written with force majeure clauses especially if games are cancelled or not played.



Some maybe, but when you order customized apparel, kind of hard to send back, and fall sports have 6 weeks at most many items 3-4 weeks before they are needed. So those order are set and a pay date of early July, usually the 10th or so. Better cancel now if you don’t want the cost.
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